Monday, December 24, 2007

Politics, again.

Oh, Yulia, Yulia:

"We'll be working on it and will make it so that in our country both young people and children would want to become coal miners," said Tymoshenko.

Some of the comments from (RUS):


I'll only believe in this when the President's daughter puts on a helmet and drags herself into a coal mine.



It's simple: she'll make other professions so unappealing that children would rather hope to become coal miners than anything else.



But this is exactly how it used to be in that great country that you destroyed! In the Soviet Union, children did dream about becoming coal miners, and their work was honorable and safe! Do you remember ever reading about coal mine accidents in Soviet newspapers?! No, because there weren't any!



Our children are dreaming of being coal miners. Because in our town of Snezhnoye the mines have been shut and now there is no way to make any money at all. We are surviving on bread and water, and it'd be nice to leave, but where to?


Peter Pan:

Communist: "Do you remember ever reading about coal mine accidents in Soviet newspapers?! No, because there weren't any!"

Are you so sure? And Orwell's "1984" and "Animal Farm" didn't exist, either, right?

It was all there. In special depositories. As for points of view that were different from the "leading and guiding one" - you could only hear those on short-wave radio through the wailing of the jamming stations. As Napoleon (not a psycho!) used to say in a well-known joke, "If I had controlled the Soviet press, the world wouldn't have learned about my defeat in the Battle of Waterloo!"


Benya na Laden dyshit 2 Communist:

You better remember football broadcasts from Donetsk. The tracks around the field were packed with wheelchairs.

Then they banned these wheelchairs, too.

As for the accidents, no one was reporting on them in the USSR - well, perhaps they did once, when the plane carrying Tashkent "Pakhtokor" [football team] crashed. They had to somehow explain to the people where the old players disappeared and why the backup team members were playing instead.

They didn't report a word on what happened to the Komsomolets submarine, nor did they report on the nuclear accident in the Urals - while it was way worse there than in Chernobyl.

So much for you Communist USSR government.



Kids are going to dream of playing for "Shakhtar" ["Coal Miner," a Donetsk football club]. That's for sure.

I love the way this conversation is evolving - even though I hate what Yulia has said.


P.S. I've made a GV entry out of it - here.


  1. I, too, have a problem with that quote of hers. Can anyone picture her grandson craving the miner's job?

  2. Once the Soviet-era infrastructure (and mentality) finally rusts away, perhaps there will be room for newer equipment and ideas...

  3. I am interested in this post, as editor of a Web site on world football cultures. On a few occasions I have been able to write about Ukraine (, and I'm curious how these regional distictions in such a vast country are reflected in the football support.